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Read October 28, 2009, 11:47:19 PM #0
unclefred
HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

Good Film, tells a simple story with an effective atmosphere and slow build up to a horrific conclusion. No surprises and not a lot of dialogue, but the performances of Tom Noonan (the killer in Manhunter) and Mary Woronov(eating Raoul, Deathrace) are full of dread and weird vibes. The house is effective too as a plot device. Opens in theaters this weekend and it would be a good Halloween movie.


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Read October 29, 2009, 08:57:09 PM #1
eDogg2012
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

I got to watch the first 45min then got interupted  , wish I could have seen the whole thing but I liked what I did see !


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Read November 02, 2009, 03:12:54 AM #2
MALICE
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

just saw it the other day at the trinity and i loved it, i was talking shit about ti west a while back because i saw trigger man and the roost both were boring and pointless movies i could tell he had a talent with the camera as he had great set ups and shots but the movies them selves were boring and i figured house would be the same but i was wrong he made a film that genuinely feels like a late 70's early 80's film witch is great the story was slow but it had a pay off unlike his last two films, the actting was great everyone played their parts well, the detail he put into the set such as the old cars and phones everything looked great even the music really helped the film it reminded me a lot of a carpenter film and i hope he makes more like this.
 
Read November 02, 2009, 09:12:44 PM #3
LivingDedMan
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

The trailer looks good and it does have a retro style to it.


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Read November 03, 2009, 08:17:47 PM #4
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

I feel that it's over-hyped, too slow and has a twist ending that falls flat. More here:

http://www.fangoria.com/blogs/raising-hell/4495-raising-hell-style-vs-substance-in-the-house-of-the-devil.html


Writer: Fangoria.com:
http://fangoria.com/blogs/raising-hell.html

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Read November 03, 2009, 10:15:24 PM #5
MALICE
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

i did not see any hype really, no one told me about it and the only add i saw was on the trinityofterrors web site, all i saw was that ti west directed it and i thought wow another crap film until i watched it, maybe me putting it down before i saw it is what made me like it so much.
 
Read November 05, 2009, 09:11:42 PM #6
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

I liked the first 45mins. Great 70's feel, great acting, locations....Then its 30mins of a girl walking from room to room. Once the satanic stuff happens it's scenes we've seen a hundred times before and the ending goes no where.
The movie is worth watching for Tom Noonan. His acting his excellent.


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Read November 06, 2009, 02:16:08 AM #7
unclefred
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

I think what i liked was the lack of explanation to the audience (part of what the Fangoria blogger incorrectly termed lack of substance) about the happenings, including the occultic finale. It was a straightforward unfloding of events without the usual mumbo jumbo and explanations. Life is that way. Rarely do we get a complete story or closure when catastrophic events  happen . I did feel the ending was a tad abrupt and a few more minutes could have given the film more heft.


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Read November 06, 2009, 05:57:02 AM #8
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

I think what i liked was the lack of explanation to the audience (part of what the Fangoria blogger incorrectly termed lack of substance) about the happenings, including the occultic finale. It was a straightforward unfloding of events without the usual mumbo jumbo and explanations. Life is that way. Rarely do we get a complete story or closure when catastrophic events  happen . I did feel the ending was a tad abrupt and a few more minutes could have given the film more heft.


When I said "lack of substance," I didn't mean "lack of explanation" or "lack of" anything else. If I did, I would have said so.

It took nearly half an hour to get her alone in the house, then she wanders around the house for over half an hour before anything happens. When shit finally starts happening...

SPOILER ALERT!

... we get a brief Satanic ritual and a chase scene before she blows her fuckin' brains out - on camera! In the next scene, she's in a hospital bed with her head bandaged. If this happened in a Rob Zombie or Eli Roth film, people would be pitching a fit about how this was a cheat & doesn't make any sense. On top of that, there's no reason why would she think to kill herself instead of the Satanist chasing her through the cemetery.

END SPOILER

I don't know if people have seen other cuts of the film where this happens off camera, but the HDNet cut clearly showed it on camera (I read an interview where Ti West complained that the studio cut 4 minutes of her wandering around from one cut of the film, including the scene where she was playing the piano, which was in the HDNet cut - http://is.gd/4OJMm).

There's simply nothing more to the film. I'm glad that people who are nostalgic for films from that era enjoyed it as a guilty pleasure, but after reading the same cliches over and over about how this film is for intelligent, mature people who don't have an attention deficiency - or ever worse, that bullshit "true horror fans" cop-out - I had to write something.

If mature people are scared THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL, PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, creaky houses and their own shadows, I'd rather be immature. If intelligent people prefer films where people wander around and nothing happens over films where things actually happen, I'd rather be blissfully ignorant focusing what little attention I have on films where I'm not fighting falling asleep.

If films like THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL & PARANORMAL ACTIVITY are for "true horror fans," I'd rather be a film fan who enjoys horror films that embrace this visual medium. If I want to hear sound effects that allude to things that might or might not be happening while people wander around, there are plenty of old-time radio plays available online.

To be fair, I had to laugh at the comment someone left on my blog about "Samantha's isolation". Kubrick's THE SHINING was a psychological exploration of isolation. THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL was about a teenager's exploration of a house where she wasn't even left alone.

« Last Edit: November 06, 2009, 06:05:38 AM by Hellstorm »

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http://fangoria.com/blogs/raising-hell.html

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Read November 07, 2009, 12:58:05 AM #9
unclefred
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

To declare that all you saw was a teenager wandering around with nothing happening, simply shows that you missed the nuances of what was happening. Maybe some people don't need to see an ax in the head to realize something is happening'or to keep their attention. Or a really trick 'boom' noise to make you jump. Hopefully strippers and white 'rappers' too.


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Read November 07, 2009, 02:41:18 AM #10
MALICE
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

you keep lumping it in with paranormal activity as if it will get your point across, i fail to see what the two films have to do with each other sure both take place in a house but thats it really, i found activity boring and pointless but house of the devil was a good effort that cant be over looked, slow films dont bother me, people had the same complaint about the decent another film i enjoyed, the wait builds suspense and while the story was nothing original it was still a fun view for me.
 
Read November 07, 2009, 07:22:12 AM #11
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

you keep lumping it in with paranormal activity as if it will get your point across,


This doesn't even make sense, unless you feel that my points apply to one film but not the other.

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i fail to see what the two films have to do with each other sure both take place in a house but thats it really, i found activity boring and pointless but house of the devil was a good effort that cant be over looked,


Now it makes sense, LOL.

I lumped them together because they're two recently released films where people seem to be almost apologizing for their slow plots and lack of originality because of their style.

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slow films dont bother me, people had the same complaint about the decent another film i enjoyed, the wait builds suspense and while the story was nothing original it was still a fun view for me.


Slow films don't bother me either. Two of my favorite films are GASLIGHT (1944) & LES DIABOLIQUES (1955). Both of these films are "slow-burners" that effectively increase tension without sacrificing plot.

In fact, LES DIABOLIQUES was #1 on my Top 10 Foreign Horror Films of All Time list (9 months ago):

http://fangoria.com/blogs/raising-hell/1333-my-top-10-foreign-horror-films-of-all-time.html


Writer: Fangoria.com:
http://fangoria.com/blogs/raising-hell.html

Co-host of the Kryptographik Podcast
http://www.lordshaper.com/kryptographik/
 
Read November 07, 2009, 09:29:38 AM #12
MALICE
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

you keep lumping it in with paranormal activity as if it will get your point across,


This doesn't even make sense, unless you feel that my points apply to one film but not the other.

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i fail to see what the two films have to do with each other sure both take place in a house but thats it really, i found activity boring and pointless but house of the devil was a good effort that cant be over looked,


Now it makes sense, LOL.

I lumped them together because they're two recently released films where people seem to be almost apologizing for their slow plots and lack of originality because of their style.

Quote
slow films dont bother me, people had the same complaint about the decent another film i enjoyed, the wait builds suspense and while the story was nothing original it was still a fun view for me.


Slow films don't bother me either. Two of my favorite films are GASLIGHT (1944) & LES DIABOLIQUES (1955). Both of these films are "slow-burners" that effectively increase tension without sacrificing plot.

In fact, LES DIABOLIQUES was #1 on my Top 10 Foreign Horror Films of All Time list (9 months ago):

http://fangoria.com/blogs/raising-hell/1333-my-top-10-foreign-horror-films-of-all-time.html


no i get that your saying activity and house both suck and thats why your lumping them together but i dont see how you can throw them both in the same bag to someone who has not seen house yet your comments may give them the wrong idea, the two are different types of film and rarely share a connection so those who actually value your opinion might be misled, i could see if you said the blairwitch and activity as they share the same style and all around hype drivin success, house had a plot and to me the style did not take away from the film but added to it

SPOILER ALEART:





you said the part with her blowing her brains out bothered you, right after the ritual the mother said that it was going to work in spit of her so her recovery was ment to be supernatural, nothing would stop her from having the anti-christ i thought that was a cool idea and i got it right off the bat. she shot her slef because she already started hearing the voices and seeing the visions and she wanted to end it and the fact that she could not was ment to be scary.
 
Read November 07, 2009, 10:15:15 AM #13
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

no i get that your saying activity and house both suck and thats why your lumping them together but i dont see how you can throw them both in the same bag to someone who has not seen house yet your comments may give them the wrong idea, the two are different types of film and rarely share a connection so those who actually value your opinion might be misled, i could see if you said the blairwitch and activity as they share the same style and all around hype drivin success, house had a plot and to me the style did not take away from the film but added to it

SPOILER ALEART:





you said the part with her blowing her brains out bothered you, right after the ritual the mother said that it was going to work in spit of her so her recovery was ment to be supernatural, nothing would stop her from having the anti-christ i thought that was a cool idea and i got it right off the bat. she shot her slef because she already started hearing the voices and seeing the visions and she wanted to end it and the fact that she could not was ment to be scary.

While the style of HOTD worked for you, for me it was distracting, just like in PA. In fact, I feel that the style in both films was so distracting that it kept me from buying into the reality of the films. This is one of the reasons that I didn't find these films scary. This is also one of the reasons why the ending didn't work for me (another being Mr. Ulman's response just before she pulled the trigger), even though I understood what Ti West was suggesting.

It's hard to accept the supernatural ending when you're not scared of what's supposed to be the source of the supernatural, and there's nothing supernatural in the rest of the film (the visions/voices could have been a result of her being drugged).

If pushed, I'd probably say that HOTD was better than PA. While some people feel that the lack of shakey-cam made PA an improvement over The Blair Witch Project, I felt that the camera on the tripod felt staged and boring. If you combine this with two main characters that felt more like they were trapped together (like in SAW) more than they even liked each other, and the video being sped up taking me out of the film at least as much as the shakey-cam took other people out of TBWP, it's hard for me to like PA, let alone understand the praise it's recieved as the scariest film in years.

« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 10:17:41 AM by Hellstorm »

Writer: Fangoria.com:
http://fangoria.com/blogs/raising-hell.html

Co-host of the Kryptographik Podcast
http://www.lordshaper.com/kryptographik/
 
Read November 07, 2009, 12:01:34 PM #14
Re: HOUSE OF THE DEVIL Just watched it on HDnet Movies...

There was another 4 mins of her wandering around??
Like I said I enjoyed the 1st 45 mins. I liked the slow build up. It created dread over the movie. But once she begins walking around and doing nothing for 30mins it killed the movie for me.

Spoiler.......................
her shooting herself does make sense since it appears they impregnated her with the antichrist. But we have seen the same satanic ritual scene over and over again. The finale of this movie gave us nothing new or interesting and there was no payoff.


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